Columbia Borough Police, guns drawn, arrived on the scene of a shooting in the Columbia Plaza parking lot today. A woman was shot in the abdomen allegedly by another woman at about 4:30 p.m. after an argument. West Hempfield and Manor Township departments also responded. Emergency personnel on the scene administered first aid to the victim who was then taken by ambulance.
Thanks for a great report. Not safe to get groceries after work in broad daylight!!!
ReplyDeleteYeah good point in broad daylight and everyone with their I phones according to the police report they collected no video evidence isn't that something? Of course we all know it exists just look at the clips of the videos ha ha. How ever the major news won't show that video huh? Just FYI and some food for thought someone get's shot and the most the local yocal police produce according to their pathetic reports are allegedly 2 witnesses??? Wow!
DeleteSafe bet, none are originally from Columbia, just here long enough to give us a bad name.
ReplyDeleteThe alleged shooter was about 200 pounds lighter than either of the other two women.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it really was self defense.
One woman, that was not the shooter or the victim, repeatedly resisted the officers.
ReplyDeleteWhy did curry not shoot for center mass. Shoot to kill . Insted shot for the leg. Could it be possible it was to stop an attack. Some restraint on her part. Why cant two people duke it out. I beleive that is what happened. Till other peopl got involved not to stop the fight but instead got in it. Is there a possibillity that maybe acting like you have a gun when you do not is a factor here. People need to mind their biz. And call the police instead of trying to video with I phones. I bet not one called the police. If miss roland wanted to stop the fight she should have called the police. Easy people its called the UJS look up their history for your self. Interesting to say the least. Just sayin ya gotta love the internet. No disrespect to anyone but court records dont lie.and they are available to all. Dont rush to judgement... hope everybody involved is ok. Speedy recovery to miss roland and freedom for miss curry.. shame on miss mccowin and all the video recording people who are truely guilty for not doing the right thing....
ReplyDeleteWhile I might agree with some of your speculations, I had to lightly edit your comment to remove possibly libelous or defamatory content.
DeleteThe victim was shot in the abdomen.
DeleteI understand that to be as a result of her gut hanging over her leg.
DeleteCould that be more likely?
Close enough, non life threatining injury. Hope she is ok. Whats up with the remote controll in the picture. Wonder if it fell out her pocket during scuffle. Why were the two black girls fighting? Did they know mccowin ? If they were victems why was the one resisting arrest ? Was she arrested ? And if so why ? Thank you for info.
ReplyDeleteIf you look between the officers legs in the one photo the girl that was shot is holding something that looks like a remote. That is interesting. How did these two women end up behind miss currys truck. If they were defending mccowin who was 30 yards away. That does not seem right. What a mess. No weapons charges ? Why are people trying to instagate more problems. Media reports total BS to make it look a bad sort of way in hopes of making national news . They are only making matters worse by these actions. Its not the first time there was a heated argument in mussers lot. Saw a girl strangled in broad day light up there one time. Also noticed store manager following the two women out of mussers. Seems like a lot goin on. Early videos show a wealth of info. Just a shame no one called the cops out the gate instead of playin UTUBE reporters. I understand that people as far away as calafornia had video in a few minutes. But no one called the police. I know in some staes like MD they are arresting people for recording and not reporting to law enforcement. Sorry for rambling. Thanx for you time.
ReplyDeleteRemote ? Looks like a gun to me...... great pics...
ReplyDeleteNot shopin at mussers anymore..... not because of gun issue but who wants to be around people who are thugs and loosers... little girl done did what she had to. Bet you would too.... lets see some collection jars around town for the shooter she prob needs a little help on this one..... lawers guns and money....
ReplyDeleteNo doubt , we shop in lancaster to avoid columbia stores just for that reason... wonder how many other people do. Have to carry in that shoping center. All the winners shop there. All they need is a liquer store. Wooohooo!
ReplyDeleteThe media has really blowed this out of proportion. Only reporting one side of the story . How is this possible when there us so much more to this story. Really unfair if i do say so. So much energy spent doing people dirty. If they put half that effort into doing the right thing maybe this would be a different story. So many more people involved. Why is it we have not heard from them. Guilty untill proven inocent. What a shame.
ReplyDeleteThe courts are a buisness. That being said its not about justice but instead about how much money they can generate to keep themselves employed. If it were volenteer positions the prisons would not be over flowin costing the tax payers millions. Prisons for profit. People dont care because they think it will never happen to them. Yet good people get sucked into the system all the time. If you cant pay then you are guilty. Even the public defenders work in the best interest of the DAs office. If you cant pay yiur screwed. Inocent people take pleas all the time because they are bullied with reduculous charges. Our system is broken and does not work the way it should. Stand up people.. stand up for your rights......
ReplyDeleteI understand that someone out there has a video that verifys currys story. They need to do the right thing and get it to the right people asap.
ReplyDeleteRumor has it that there was some shoplofting goin on during this incedent. If curry was never in any of the stores then what is this all about ? Somebody out there knows something....not cut and dry for sure..
ReplyDeleteThis post and forrum need to be posted on all sites. Interesting info that all need to know.
ReplyDeleteJust read the rap sheets on manfred roland and glenn. Not much in the way of credabillity there. One was arrested for pullin this simular thing not long ago. Maybe miss curry did fear for her life.
ReplyDeleteThe only ones racist are the ones making this about race them selves.
ReplyDeleteI watched Dave chapelle and he says the "N" word more times than I can count but if your white and own a foot ball team why than your nothing but a racist what ever happened to freedom of speech and opinion. The white girl Curry was also called racial names but no one cared about that guess cause she is white.....
Also the girl who was shot passed something to a girl in a white jacket could it be drugs? They certainly had no shopping bags so what exactly were they passing and doing there that day thanks to an incompitant police Dept. and Neg, D.A. perhaps we may never know what and why we just know from video it did happen.
by the way the local Police Department has no people other than white Officers so who's racist?
Also right before christmas that poor black lady was hit and killed by white folks on 3rd and Locust in Columbia and the D.A. and media refused to release names due to "racial contraversy" what does that say? The poor victim was killed but they don't want the public to know who is responsible for that one. One who is not racist must wonder why? Maybe the District Attorney can tell us since they claim they are so tough on crime eh???
just look at how many black people the columbia police Employ..... None so who are the racist ones and when that lady was hit and killed just before christmas on 3rd and locust street that woman was killed by a wreckless drivers who happened to both be white and the white police never released those names ..... So any one who makes this random inncodent about race is racist them selves Dave Chapelle says the N word more times than most can count but no one says or does anything about that do they unless you happen to be a white folk than your allegedly racist why??? So how many African Americans are empolyed in the local yocal Police Department?
ReplyDeleteThat's what I thought so shame on them .
Let's not for get the attorney alleging in open court about bogus and non existant drug convictions and alleging Curry's permit to carry was not legite....
It's like he is saying in a round about way that the Lancaster County Sherriff's Department is in the business of dealing out pernits to those who shouldn't have them it is not only a direct insult and lie about Ms. Curry but also slander and untrue statements to the court about the Sherriff's Department as well is That someone you want being Judge since he is running for that position... Do you want someone like him hearing and ruling on your case too? He better give up while he's ahead in my opinion unless he wants to continue to look like one ah ha ha ha...... My dog is smarter than that any one else who knowingly gives false statements to the courts has to answer to that for not propperly consulring the law first. If I had to guess he probably graduated at the bottom of his low life class..... Tee Hee
man, that comment was so true and I couldn't have said it better myself.
DeleteAnother fact here is the very ones/ Office that is to uphold the law and persue justice will go out of their way to pervert it. That in and of itself is unlawful.. Seems to me they think they can get away with that guess we shall see. I certainly wouldn't want someone like that hearing and ruling on my case not to mention I would say with him knowingly presenting untrue statements to the court about Curry's not true and alleged drug convictions and the whole permit to carry that he himself is prejudice and racist against gun owners and women in general if he truely cared about crime he would have charged the others for lunacy, resisting, at the very least for aggressive actions against the real victim Curry....... Again who's the racist one???
Hopefully the truth will find its way to the light.
Deleteat this point it is obvious that something is indeed wrong with this situation ! if this is the way things are being handled in lancaster co. it is time for people to stand up for their rights and demand change. time to lay to rest a system that is broken and move on. if you think this will never happen to you think again. do not be the one to say i wish i would have done something when you are the one who is locked up for charges the DA made up or a crime the police did not investigate properly. IT DOES HAPPEN ALL THE TIME !!!
ReplyDeleteSomething's rotten in the judicial system, and this case stinks out loud.
DeleteI keep thinking about the west hempfield home invasion where two teens posed as police officers and terrorized a family. The family was minding their own business in their own house. There was no reasonable doubt that these two broke into the home. That was a planned attack, yet as I recall those two got off with no jail time, they went to a boot camp of some sort. One of those two happens to be a west hempfield cop's son. The incident at Musser's was not a planned attack and there IS reasonable doubt as to what all went on that afternoon. Too bad Ashley's dad isn't a cop. Comparing these two crimes and how very different the outcomes might be is necessary to show the injustice right before our eyes.
ReplyDeleteA premeditated home invasion = no reasonable doubt.
An unexpected and chaotic road rage fight/shooting= all kinds of reasonable doubt.
Let's talk more about "reasonable doubt" shall we? Every news report states the police are still trying to piece this whole thing together so since they do not have all the facts per their own admissions that is a perfect example of reasonable doubt.
DeleteYes, that was a "motivational boot camp". While prison time was 2-5 years it was stated that serving any time was unlikely. The boot camp was to be a nine month stint in which most inmates that committed a crime such as this would be ineligible. During the home invasion, a gun was displayed and a physical assault did occur.
ReplyDeleteLet's not forget that one person at the center of this shooting was (in the past) charged with filing a false report. How will she be trusted to speak the truth this time?
ReplyDeleteRight, that information, publicly available, does raise questions about credibility.
DeleteI find it very interesting that on youtube there are videos about this from the news that state and claim several police agency's were at the scene which they failed to secure by the way but anyway they collected no pictures or video and according to comments on facebook for columbiapaonline page there is a comment from someone who claims to have seen the whole video posted on youtube that everyone knows exists. Either by accident or accidentally on purpose ha ha. So if the police/agencies were trying to piece together what happened as the news claims why would they have the actual footage of the shooting itself removed? Could it be they wanted people to hear one side of the story?
ReplyDeleteBy the way the one who was shot and her sister along with wack job Mccowin are all convicted felons. The shooter has no such convictions.... Very disturbing yet interesting.
Another interesting fact is Roland (shooting victim) claimed she was unable to testify at the preliminary hearing on March 9th yet she had no trouble making a statement to the news about it the same day right after the hearing another lie on her part..... Watch or google search video kyle rogers news 21 titled "Lancaster County woman heads to trial after parking lot shooting the date is at the top of the video.
Thanks Mr. Kyle for that video you should have asked her why she could speak to you the news crew and not the court?
Perhaps MR. Kyle Rogers could do a follow up News report for the public and ask Roland/victim just that? I'm sure the public would like to hear her answer to that question.
ReplyDeleteCome on Mr. Rogers how bout it? Or any one else who reported on this story?
Better watch the above mentioned youtube video quick before they remove that one too.
ReplyDeleteI find it interesting that in Baltimore in the Grey case "prosecutors" are still investigating yet in the Curry case she was treated as guilty and takin to jail and charged without a just investigation. Wonder why that is?
ReplyDeleteAnother case in point the news nor police will release the names of the 74 year old man who shot the 29 year old in a "road rage" incident.
ReplyDeleteDid any one notice in the videos of the "aftermath" of this one, on columbiapaonline facebook page see people taking things from the alleged victims/scene? Or how about the fact that While Roland alleged victim and sister of Crystal Manfred who Manfred being on probation has what appears to be a cell phone in one hand instead of calling police after her again alleged sister is on the ground is still trying to get to her victim Curry? Then after she puts the phone in her pocket the remote control comes out of the other pocket which is the same remote found at the scene and taken as "evidence" When your own alleged sister is laying on the ground from a gunshot wound and your more worried about getting to the real victim (Curry) that both those girls pursued instead of calling the police that is pretty cold and should be illegal. So how are they the alleged victims? Anybody want to answer to that one? I didn't think so!
Bottom line and point is how is it ok for news to name some involved in incidents and not others that in and of it self is prejudice, biast and a little racist in my opinion.
I was wondering about the difference in the two cases, too. I'm going to post something on this.
DeleteLet's not forget the Mildred Brown case God rest her soul! She was killed by a driver and the D.A. who claims and alleges they care about crime so much swept that one right under the rug. They also without even waiting or knowing the other side (truth) in the Curry case filed charges and released names right away . This new case there are no names mentioned and days of investigation.
DeleteLike I said when you go after a person who has just shot your alleged sister that is enough to show what their and I mean both intentions really were.
Under the section of law Preliminary Provisions (1) (self defense law) Chapter 5 section 505 where it talks about self defense there is a subsection under # 2 that states this:
(2.5) Unless one of the exceptions under paragraph (2.2) applies, a person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter an actor’s dwelling, residence or occupied vehicle or removes or attempts to remove another against that other’s will from the actor’s dwelling, residence or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit:
(i) an act resulting in death or serious bodily injury; or
(ii) kidnapping or sexual intercourse by force or threat.
Notice the word attempts and presumed. In the video Manfred is clearly shown attempting to enter Curry's occupied vehicle even after she know's Curry is armed and need I repeat the part about her partner/alleged sister laying wounded right in front of her and Manfred with cell phone in hand didn't even call police. You could probably do another article on that cold and monster act in and of itself. Funny too Manfred was the only one besides Curry who didn't give a news interview. Any guess's as to why Manfred claiming the alleged victim might have dodged that opportunity? Yeah it would be great if you could do a story about Lancaster County's corrupt picking and choosing in these cases including the present one. I'd read it.
Someone who is defending them self (Curry) is charged with a crime and someone (Manfred) who still pursues the person who had to defend them self and is on probation walks away uncharged as an alleged victim.
Wow! That's what is wrong with America.
If this girl who was charged was acting in an alleged Wreckless manor I don't think a crowed would have gathered at the site knowing she was still armed so that leads one to conclude that she was acting responsible and doing what any other reasonable person would have done in her situation. She defended herself against an imminent attack from not just one person but 2 who are more than 3 times her size. what would you have done if she was you???
ReplyDeleteMaybe someone has a thought or answer to this
ReplyDeleteHow is it people on probation are violated just for something simple yet in the video posted at columbiapaonline facebook page Crystal Manfred who was and is still on probation is seen attempting to enter Curry's occupied vehicle and she is not in violation? Why is that? Even in front of police she is still trying to get at Curry clearly seen in the video there is no disputing those facts.
Any information as to why that is?
Jamie Roland and alleged victim is also on probation according to a court docket sheet here is the docket number for that where in 2012 she was sentenced to 4 years min. and max probation sentence for a F3 that's a felony charge. Below is the docket number of her most recent crime that she committed that the court's know of.
CP-36-CR-0001601-2012 and if you click the court summary underneath the docket number on the pennsylvania unified judicial system docket sheets for the common pleas, you can see most of her criminal cases. So I wonder why the reporting agencies didn't come out with those facts as well as those concerning Glenn-Mccowin's record. Wonder if they have the nerve to answer to this. THey had no trouble bring up Curry's charges to the public but not the many criminal records of the alleged victims who were and are currently both on probation. Who want's to bet the D.A. will wait until they (Manfred and Roland) are both off of probation before bringing this before a jury?
WHat does the public think about that?